Not to worry fellow Americans, the USA cannot be Mystery Babylon.....end time Babylon as walls.
Yes Mary, we agree. Literal Babylon will be built again upon her old foundations in the latter times.
You mean Babylon is "the whore of Babylon"?
Babylon is "the Mystery Babylon"?
And then when Babylon is fallen, God will remember Babylon and her iniquities"?
Jerusalem is the whore of Babylon.
If Literal Babylon is the Mystery Babylon then there is no mystery at all.
Hi Joanna, Yes Babylon is the "whore that sitteth upon many waters" who is also "carried by the beast". John was told, "I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns" (Revelation 17:7). It may have been a mystery but is now clearly revealed in the Revelation.
The New Testament meaning of the word mystery is that of a hidden truth unveiled. We should also take note that when the word "mystery" is used in the New Testament, it is in relation to some great doctrine not clearly taught in the Old Testament. These great truths were hidden or kept secret from the foundation of the world until the revelation of Jesus Christ, such as, the translation and rapture of the saints ("Behold, I shew you a mystery" 1 Corinthians 15:51-53, 1 Thessalonians 4:15-18); the "mystery of Christ" (Ephesians 3:1-9), that is, the uniting of Jew and Gentile in the body of Christ; "the mystery of the kingdom of God" (Mark 4:11); the mystery of Israel's blindness and the salvation of the Gentiles (Romans 11); the indwelling Christ (Colossians 1:26-27); and the manifestation of God in the flesh (1 Timothy 3:16), etc.
We must also point out that the word "Revelation" comes from the Greek word apokalupsis , which means unveiling or revealing of those things that were at one time concealed. One of the things that the angel says he will reveal is the mystery surrounding this woman. "And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTh. And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns" (Revelation 17:5, 7).
The identifying name of the woman is not "Mystery" but "BABYLON THE GREAT". Babylon was the fountainhead of all false religion and became the abominations of the earth. She infected every nation with her pagan religion and from Babylon this wickedness flowed out to all the regions of the world in those early post-Flood years.
This false religious system so permeated the world that all the inhabitants of the earth were made "drunk" with the wine of her spiritual fornication. Jeremiah said, "the nations have drunken of her wine; therefore the nations are mad" (Jeremiah 51:7). It was not until the Light of God's Word entered into the world that this mystery was unveiled. Perhaps the saints should have had the perception to recognize this long ago, but now through the Word of God, it is made plain for us to see.
However, this was not the only mystery mentioned in the Revelation, for the angel told John "I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns" (v. 7). The beast was another mystery that represented the revived kingdom of Babylon that was originally established at Babel long ago. In the book of Genesis we are told, "the beginning of [Nimrod's] kingdom was Babel..." (Genesis 10:10). It appears that this was the beginning of man's concerted effort to build his own kingdom, and to govern his own affairs, politically and religiously, without God.
Since that time the earth has been divided up, each nation with their own distinct language. In essence each nation became a little colony of Babel. Some of these grew up to be great nations and kingdoms, while others dwindled to become dispersed nomadic tribes, and some clans became extinct altogether. However, in the last days there will be another concerted effort to unite and rebuild this great religious and commercial center, thus reviving a literal, religious and geopolitical Babylon once again.
Furthermore, Jerusalem is not Babylon. The prophet Isaiah lamented, "How is the faithful city become an harlot! it was full of judgment; righteousness lodged in it; but now murderers." (Isaiah 1:21) The people of Jerusalem had enjoined themselves to the Babylonish religion of the nations. And when Jesus came into the world, most of the Jews did not recognize Him and rejected Him. Because they did not recognize the time of their visitation, He said of the Jews that they would "be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled." (Luke 21:24)
However, there are many Scriptures that describe how they would be brought back into their homeland in the latter days, and Jerusalem would then become a cup of trembling amidst the nations round about her. The whole world would gather themselves to battle against Jerusalem, and rather than utterly destroying and burning Jerusalem with fire, He comes to save Jerusalem and its inhabitants. He sets up His throne there and reigns during the millennium.
Blindness in part would happen to the Jew until the fullness of the Gentiles be brought in, then he will return and deal with the wayward Jews. When they return to the land, the whole world will gather round about Jerusalem to destroy them, and it is here that Jesus returns to save them.
"And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call. For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem" (Joel 2:32-3:1)
"The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the LORD will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel. So shall ye know that I am the LORD your God dwelling in Zion, my holy mountain: then shall Jerusalem be holy, and there shall no strangers pass through her any more... But Judah shall dwell for ever, and Jerusalem from generation to generation." (Joel 3:16-17, 20)
"Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem. And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it... And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn." (Zechariah 12:2-3, 9-10)
"Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives... And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be... And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one... And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited." (Zechariah 14:1-4, 9, 11)
But Babylon is not married to God. How can Babylon commited adultery or played harlot. Israel was married but divorced, but Judah(Jerusalem) is still the unfaithful wife of God. Jerusalem is the wife of God, and the whore of Babylon.
Jerusalem is a great city(Nehemiah7:3-4). In Revelation 11:8 states that the dead bodies of the prophets(witnesses) shall lie in the great city which spiritually called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. So what is that great city? It is Jerusalem Isaiah3:8-9 Jeremiah 23:14. Jesus was crucified in
In her was found the blood of the prophets. Jerusalem killed the prophets from Abel to Zechariah. Again the two prophets will be killed in Jerusalem. How can God avenge the prophets if he will not burn Jerusalem since she killed the prophets.
Babylon is not a harlot, she is the "THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH" (Revelation 17:5). A harlot does not necessarily have anything to do with marriage. This can refer to anyone who has illicit sex outside of marriage. One who prostitutes themselves and commits fornication whether married or not. The Lord lamented, "How is the faithful city become an harlot!" (Isaiah 1:21), but this woman is called the "MOTHER OF HARLOTS".
In a spiritual sense a fornicator or an harlot would refer to anyone who worships or serves other "gods" rather than the one true God and Creator. This WOMAN has truly spawned all the false religions of the nations that departed from the one true God. The religions of polytheism, pantheism, animism, or any of the modern religions of today, whether they understand it or not, all have their roots that go back to Babel where the whole of mankind turned away in rebellion against their Creator. Babylon is truly the MOTHER of harlots AND the abominations of the earth. Every false religion goes back to her.
Jerusalem is referred to "THE great city" in the Revelation twice, (Rev. 11:18; 16:19), and is "spiritually ... called Sodom and Egypt" NOT Babylon! Babylon is referred to in the book of the Revelation as an actual city not just a symbol, and there is no reason to believe it is other than literal Babylon. It is referred to as "that great city" six times (Revelation 14:8; 17:18; 18:10, 16, 19, 21), "Babylon the great" twice (Revelation 17:5; 18:2), "great Babylon" (Revelation 16:19) once and "this great city" (Revelation 18:18) once.
Jerusalem is certainly guilty of the blood of the prophets, but Babylon is guilty of "the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus" (Revelation 17:6), NOT the prophets! How many of the saints were martyred and had their blood shed down through the centuries throughout the nations of the world by Muslim nations, Hindu nations, and all the other false religions of the nations of the world. The nations were formed at Babel. These were all little colonies of Babel and spawned by her, and she was the MOTHER of them all. This was a great mystery down through the ages, and perhaps they should have recognized this in the Scriptures, but this mystery is now clearly revealed in the Revelation.
The Bible does not say that God will avenge the blood of the prophets by burning Jerusalem. Everything you are saying seems to be taken out of context. The Bible does say that many of the saints will be martyred during the tribulation by those who dwell on the earth. This is revealed in the fifth seal. "And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled." (Revelation 6:9-11)
Revelation 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
It appears I answered that that Scripture a little too hasty. I stand corrected. In Babylon "was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth" (Revelation 18:14). But clearly we are here told, not in Jerusalem, but in Babylon. Furthermore, upon careful examination it appears that it is not necessarily talking about Babylon proper, for we are told that the blood of "all that were slain upon the earth" are found in her, which must mean that the directives have gone forth from her into all the world, and it is her spirit that lives on in her spawn, of whom she is the mother, guilty by association.
From Babylon, the rebels were scattered throughout all the earth and from thence her religion and philosophy was carried upon the backs of the nations throughout the whole earth. The apostles were told by Jesus to go into all the world and preach the gospel, and many were killed in foreign lands as martyrs as the nations rejected their word, and why is that? They had some other religion, with roots going back to Babylon. Just think about it for a moment, I think we overlook some things concerning the history of humanity. When the children of Israel came into the Promised Land, who was it that they found dwelling there? It was called the land of Caanan. Who was Caanan? He was one of the children of Ham who was scattered from Babylon. He set up camp in the region between the Mediterranean and the Jordan River and over the centuries filled that location with his descendants.
Now they had an exceeding wicked religion. They built high places (ziggurats) where they worshipped the sun moon and stars, and made idols of the gods they personified, sacrificed their children to them, etc. This is the religion the children of Israel were told to destroy along with the inhabitants because they were so irreparably wicked. Instead they enjoined the worship of idols to the worship of Jehovah. This still goes on today as this is what Roman Catholicism has done, and practiced the killing of the saints during the inquisition. Nothing has changed down through the centuries. Babylon has and still is guilty of the blood of the prophets, saints and apostles of Jesus Christ and will continue to be until Christ returns and judges the nations.
Now, if you are thinking this is the strong point of your argument, Perhaps you are getting this idea from what Christ said after Herod was threatening Him with death, and His reply was, "Nevertheless I must walk to day, and to morrow, and the day following: for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem." (Luke 13:33) It appears that in the context, He was here referring to himself in the third person. And surely you must understand, that this is not without exception. The greatest prophet of Judaism, Moses, did not die in Jerusalem. Neither Abraham, Isaac or Jacob. History also records that John the Baptist, Daniel, Ezekiel and Jeremiah died outside Jerusalem, so I do not think you can use that to argue your case.
Furthermore, you need to deal with all the other Scriptures that say that Jerusalem will be inhabited forever, and that Jerusalem is where the Lord will place His name forever. It is the place of the throne of David from where Jesus shall reign when He returns in glory. After the battle for Jerusalem, "it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles. And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain." (Read Zechariah 14) This takes place after Babylon is utterly destroyed.
Concerning Babylon we are told, "Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all. And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee; And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee..." (Revelation 18:21-23) Babylon will be found no more at all! Not a sound will ever again come forth from her ever again.
Your theory just does not fit the whole of Scripture.
What about these verses: MATTHEW 23
29“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you build the tombs of the prophets and adorn the monuments of the righteous, 30and say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.’
31“Therefore you are witnesses against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. 32Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers’ guilt. 33Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of hell? 34Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and scribes: some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city, 35that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.
Jesus Laments over Jerusalem
37“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing! 38See! Your house is left to you desolate; 39for I say to you, you shall see Me no more till you say, ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!’ â€Â
Abel too did not die in Jerusalem but why Jesus said that?
God warned Israel, Judah, and also Jerusalem by sending prophets but they did not want to hear them. King Solomon did not hear God too. He turned away from God. He build high place for Chemosh, the abomination of Moab, Molech the abomination of.... He went after Astoreth the goddess of the Zidonians, and after Milcom the abomination of the ..... And at the end times I believe that God will send prophets again in Jerusalem to preach the gospel to them. They will prophesy and torment them, and then they will get killed because their duty is finished. Why? Do you think Jews of today believe in Jesus? Judaism faith has the kabbalah. Kabbalah is Babylonian Mysticism also the Babylonian Talmud who blasphemes Jesus, that he is a bastard? A son of prostitute? Remember that they played harlot with the gods of Babylonians and of the gods of them that God destroyed. Did the Jews accepted Jesus? Do they believe in Him today? They will receive the Antichrist for rejecting Jesus.
John 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive...
And I believe that the forever kingdom will be the kingdom that shall come, the New Jerusalem. This is the forever and ever.
The dispensation was coming to a close, and Jesus was assigning the guilt of all the martyrs of the Old Testament, from the first martyr Abel, to the scribes and Pharisees. They were the children of them who slew the prophets, even children of their father the devil who was a murderer from the beginning. They had filled up the measure of their fathers and now it was time to pay the piper. God had been long suffering with the Jews, but now, upon this generation, would come the judgment of that nation, even the destruction of the temple and the Diaspora.
Jesus said, "they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled." (Luke 21:24) Blindness in part has happen to the Jews until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in, but then He will gather them back into their home land, even in the latter times, which we are seeing today, although in unbelief as was foretold by the prophet Ezekiel, but after the battle for Jerusalem, Christ shall return and all Israel shall be saved. They may receive anti-christ for a season, but in the midst of the tribulation when he sets up the abomination that maketh desolate, they shall flee to the mountains, at which time they shall face great tribulation, even the time of Jacob's trouble, but they shall be saved out of it.
During that time, Babylon will have been rebuilt as the great commercial and religious center of the world which can be read in Revelation 18. "Babylon hath been a golden cup in the Lord's hand, that made all the earth drunken: the nations have drunken of her wine; therefore the nations are mad." (Jeremiah 51:7). Babylon shall be finally be judged as foretold by the prophets and destroyed "As God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah" (Jeremiah 50:40). God said concerning Babylon, "Behold, I am against thee, O destroying mountain, saith the LORD, which destroyest all the earth: and I will stretch out mine hand upon thee, and roll thee down from the rocks, and will make thee a burnt mountain. And they shall not take of thee a stone for a corner, nor a stone for foundations; but thou shalt be desolate for ever, saith the LORD." (Jeremiah 51:25-26)
The New Jerusalem, the place that Jesus has gone to prepare for His Bride the church, does not come down out of heaven until after the millennial reign of Christ on earth from Jerusalem in the land of Israel.
New Jerusalem is the Bride. It clothe with white linen because of the righteousness of the saints. In the parable we are the guests in Christ's wedding. The wise virgins can enter, the fools cannot because they don't have light in their lamp. The light is the Holy Spirit.
Millennial reign will be in heaven because after tribulation the dead in Christ will rise first and the remained alive will caught up with them by Jesus in the clouds and reign a thousand years. This is the first resurrection. Then the other dead will not resurrect till a thousand years will expired. The earth will be made waste it is so dark because of the devastation and of the wrath. The earth will be upside down as it written in the bible. Then after a thousand years, second resurrection and Satan will loose to deceived the nation. Then the battle of Armageddon. Jesus came down with his saints and armies to battle with Satan and his angels. Then the white throne. Then new heaven and new earth and the kingdom coming down from heaven the new Jerusalem.
We certainly have our differences here. First, the New Jerusalem is not the Bride. The Church is the Bride of Christ. John says he saw New Jerusalem coming down from God out of heaven "prepared AS a bride adorned for her husband" (Revelation 21:2). This is the place that Christ has gone to prepare for His bride (John 14:2-3). It is that city "which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God" (Hebrews 11:10), that "Jerusalem which is above... the mother of us all" (Galatians 4:26). See also Hebrews 11:16; 12:22-23; 13:14. And it is only called the bride to the extent of those who occupy it (Revelation 21:9).
The church is not a guest at the marriage of the Lamb, she is the bride of Christ (Ephesians 5:22-27).
The rapture of the church happens before the Day of the Lord. It is a day of wrath (Isaiah 13:9; Zephaniah 1:14-15), to which God has not appointed us to (1 Thessalonians 5:9-11). The dead in Christ rise first, then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air (1 Thessalonians 4:16-18). The beginning of the Day includes the "Time of Jacob's Trouble" (Jeremiah 30:7; Daniel 12:1-2), or Daniel's seventieth week (Daniel 9:24, 26-27), which is the seven year tribulation period, which concludes with the battle of Armageddon, when Christ returns to earth with all His saints to save Israel (Zechariah 14:1-5), and to put down evil, and set up His kingdom here on earth for 1000 years. Yes Satan is bound during this time until a short season at the end, when Gog and Magog rise up for one more rebellion that will be squashed with fire form heaven. Satan is cast into the lake of fire, THEN the Great White Throne judgment, God burns up this present world, and creates a new heaven and earth. at which time the New Jerusalem comes down from God out of heaven.
I would agree that the Church with Christ is reigning from heaven during the 1000 years, while those who survived the tribulation, Jew and Gentile, will repopulate the earth, when the kingdom of God shall be on the earth, Israel heading up the nations.
For more detail on the chronology of events see a Prophetic Timeline of the Future: http://www.accordingtothescriptures.org/prophecy/futureprophecy.html
You're absolutely correct Joanna. The reason Jerusalem is called the MOTHER of harlots is as the Scriptures say: "The nations have drunk of her wine, therefore the nations are mad" (Jer 51:7).
"All nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication" (Rev 18:3)
She entices other nation to join in her abominations.
Jerusalem is the whore of Babylon, the great city. Jerusalem was captured by the beasts: Babylonian, Medo-Persian, Greek and Roman Empire. Jerusalem below is in bondage. (Mother of harlots) She played harlots with other gods. Jerusalem above is free, and is our mother. (The coming kingdom of God). Jerusalem was a faithful city became an harlot and I think at the end times she will play harlot again. They will receive the prince that shall come since they rejected Jesus. She is drunken with the blood of the prophets. (Jerusalem killed the prophets). In the bible there is only one city who killed the prophets because Jesus said it is impossible that a prophet perished out of Jerusalem.
And the 10 kings of the kingdom(?) will be hated the harlot and make her desolate. And when Babylon is fallen God will remember her iniquities. Israel is divorced but Judah (Jerusalem)is still the unfaithful wife of God. Why is there be a new Jerusalem from heaven if old Jerusalem will not be destroyed. God said come out of her my people. Let those of Judea flee to the mountains, and let those of the country not enter the city.